SAMe

[Pam]

Anyone have any experience with taking this? I'm trying very hard to avoid depression meds and have read that this is good for depression. None of the side effects of St. Johns Wort.

Curious if anyone has taken this or knows someone who does.

I've given myself 2 months to see if I can pull out of this. Going to try SAMe and get myself exercising. I wish so much I could have a do over.

Wish me luck.

[Smoke]

never heard of it.

[fish]

i am no pill man. i take no prescribed medications. but at my age i'm lucky.

that said, were i thee, Pam, i would run, not walk, to a psychiatrist for some help. i would make sure that i had a recent blood work up to get levels in areas that are associated with depression such as thyroid levels, etc. and then i would go get help. i would also try to get references to confirm that the Dr is not a pill pusher.

sometimes meds are not taken for direct healing effect. sometimes we need meds to give our systems the chance to heal.

an analogy is pretty simple. calamine lotion to stop scratching so the rash can go away.

then we go off the meds.

life is too darn short.

as for SAM-e, i don't like the looks of it.

quick search, "SAM-e" depression study gives 40K hits.

does not look too good at first, but have not read much.

altmedicine.about.com/od/treatmentsfromatod/a/SAMe.htm

www.depressionblog.com/archives/000050.shtml

[Smoke]

This has nothing to do with what Pam asked but on something you replied Fish..

(i am no pill man. i take no prescribed medications. but at my age i'm lucky)

At your age is an interesting comment. I'm having an incredible amount of trouble with Dr's.
and how they think or not.

Kenny's Uncle just had a blood clot in his leg..forgive me if I've already ranted about this but it really buggs me! anyway, they put him on cumadin (sp) and it says to stay away from green leafy veggies, blueberries and a whole host of other stuff...why?...BECAUSE IT CONTAINS VITAMIN "K" AND NATURALLY WILL THIN YOUR BLOOD!!!! HELLO!!! Now he's never had an issue with blood clots in the past but yet he more than likely will end up taking cumadin the rest of his life. I don't get it. again. Dr.s claim they don't play god but the way I see it is they are playing god with keeping us living longer just as much as if they would take a life. Maybe we as a race aren't supposed to live to be 102. If there really is a god out there and he had a plan, don't ya think he had it figured out from the begining?

I guess this sort of does have something to do with what you wrote Pam. Stay away from the pills!! I'll check these links out from the other computer when I have a chance.

Fish is right, you need a good support group, perhaps a shrink to sort it out (I'm not a huge fan of them either but..) and then ya need to pull youself up by your boot straps and LIVE YOUR LIFE!! Enjoy your family, your career, your bats! Your not abandoning Ryan by living your life. Your not forgetting him.

[Smoke]

I'm in one of those moods again, can ya tell. lol

[Smoke]

I Don't know..."Synthetic compound" would bother me. If it were a synthetic vs of something that we already have, find out what you need to do to jump start what's already in your body. Didn't like the side effects either.

I'm not much help to you here Pam. will ya luv me anyway. lol

[Pam]

Admittedly I havent done a lot of research on SAMe, just read about it on Dr. Oz's site. I thought I'd check to see if you guys had any experience with it first.

I'm not a fan of pills either, other than my thyroid meds I'm not on any either. Well besides, multi vit, fish oil and probiotic.

I want to try to deal with this through diet and nutrition. I really believe I can...most of the time. I need to get in to see my nutritionist again. Its just doing it, taking that first step that seems to be the hardest part right now. Pulling myself up by my boot straps would be great, I just cant seem to find them Sue.

I have actually talked to 3 people about this. The therapist and psychiatrist both say no to meds. I'm just not to that point yet and they dont believe in medicating if not necessary. The doctor suggested anti depressants before I even told her what was going on...just blew me away..."Oh she says shes depressed, lets just medicate her so I can get to my next patient and get home."

I'm taking baby steps, started getting the workout area cleaned out yesterday, actually Jack did most of the work. Started taking more steps around the house. Walking around the island twice before setting the table, going back to the kitchen to get each plate. I know that may sound stupid but its where I am right now.

I was told this second year is worse than the first. Fish I'm sure you know about that. Reality sets in and hits you square in the face and knocks you right off your feet. I get up, I take care of the kids, we laugh, we play...from what they tell me this is good. from what they tell me I am expecting too much of myself.

Next month I will go to my first TCF meeting (The compassionate friends) Its a group for people who have lost a child. My mom wanted to go with me. I told her I dont think I can even walk into that room without crying. she told me she wont let me cry. I told her, you know mom, I actually think it would be ok for me to cry, I think they get it...problem is, she doesnt. I know she tries, I really do, but she doesnt.

So I'm going to try to sneak off to the first meeting alone...I feel bad doing that but I need a place I can go and feel what I feel and have it be ok. Its not ok with her when I cry, when I'm sad.

Thanks for your help guys. I think I'll pass on the SAMe and Sue, I still love ya...heck you've been there for me more than my family (not including Kara, Tanner and Jack - they are amazing)

Today marks 19 months without my baby. At 2:20 pm February 23, 2008 my son gave me a kiss and a hug and told me he loved me....little did I know that would be my last kiss, my last hug. At 4:50pm I talked to him for the last time, I got my last I love you, my last goodbye....at 5:00pm his life was taken...at 8pm I discovered my life would be forever changed...and so I am.

I miss my son, I miss that part of me that died with him. I miss his smile...I miss who I was when I had all my kids.

Ryan, was an amazing young man. You only need read his facebook page to know that.

I love you Ryan...I love you with all my heart...

[Smoke]

I'm surprised that you found that on Oz's site...thought he was more of a purist. Dr's a Dr. no matter how you look at it I suppose.

I'll loan ya a pair of boot straps..got a bunch of them here. I know our situations are alot different but it's sorta like Nike..Just Do It! and you can.

I think the TCF group is a good idea. Shrinks are textbook, people like this are reality. Kinda like the gal that runs the Alz meeting I go to...she's never been a firsthand caregiver...she knows alot about ad and has been around these types of people but not firsthand...there is a difference. Go and don't talk yourself out of it. We want a full report.

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