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Post by Fish on Aug 9, 2003 15:38:50 GMT -6
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Post by Pam on Aug 11, 2003 6:48:55 GMT -6
Looks interesting. I printed it off. I'll get back to you after I get some time to really read it.
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Post by Pam on Aug 14, 2003 7:07:00 GMT -6
Well I was able to read through the article once, I have been so busy this week, but it seems to me its just another was of saying you need to change things up with your routine. That you cant or shouldnt train just one way or for one thing. I'll get into more later but just wanted to get that back to you. I am trying to get things together to put in a pool and build a deck and I am totally overwhelmed with all there is to do. Not to mention that the guys are Home Depot have been treating me like dirt. I hate being treated like I dont know what I'm talking about or what I'm doing just because I am a woman. Its amazing the response my son gets compared to me. Its like the time I went into the sporting good store to pick up 30 lb db's. I was with "what's his face", and not once did the sales person talk to me, even if I asked the question. When we went to pay I went to pick up the db's and he said to "what's his face" "Can she lift those" Excuse me, I'm right here, care to ask me? His response was "I hope, she's the one that's using them." Sorry to go on...Jack got an earful yesterday too, but the long version, so consider yourself lucky. Its just something that really bugs me. Done venting. Your thoughts on the article?
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Post by fish on Aug 14, 2003 16:31:54 GMT -6
Pam,
Of course your observations are valid and what you describe is not acceptable, but things are really changing.
It is a couple of years now, since I was one of nine people in a courtroom: the judge, three other lawyers, an armed court officer, the plaintiff, the defendant, a witness, and me, (I) and I "advised the court" with some bemusement, that it was the first time in my career that I was the only man in the courtroom during a contested hearing.
So you keep on pushing and we'll all get closer.
Keep the faith,
Fish
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Post by Pam on Aug 14, 2003 18:04:11 GMT -6
Another thing I find so incredible is how rude men are to women these days. I know I cant group all of them in that category but most of the ones I run into are just plain jerks. One guy today cut me off as I was walking out of the store. He cut right inbetween me and my kids, no one gets between me and my kids. I let that one know how I felt about what he did. What bugged me the most about one of the Home Depot incidents was when we were in the car, and after I had complained about the way I was just treated all the way out to the van, my youngest said, " You know Mom you always tell us we need to stick up for ourselves...you should have stuck up for yourself in there." He was of course right. As you can see this is a touchy subject for me so I'll just leave it at that.
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Post by fish on Aug 14, 2003 18:37:09 GMT -6
Pam,
Hey, with respect.
If pressure is pumped into a container, and that pressure is not permitted to vent properly, then the container will vent at an unintended or unforseen point so that the pressure can be released without a catastrophic break.
And it sounds like you've got a lot going on.
Nevertheless, your reactions sound good to me.
Of course no one comes between me and my kids.
Of course I should be respected.
But I am so angry.
Were the kids actually threatened ?
Was I disrepected by someone who was not merely expressing his own insecurity ?
And I don't want my kids to be so angry. It's poison.
I have to teach my kids to deal with all the jerks they encounter without poisioning them to think that the world is populated with nothing but jerks.
The stream is full of rocks. Flow around the rocks.
Yeah, yeah, if you're one of those, just take my money and give me the stuff so I can get out of here and get on with it.
Oh, by the way, kids, did you see how inappropriate that person's behavior was ? IT IS NO COMMENTARY ON US, BUT ONLY ON HIM. Should we fight with him if we do not have to for our essential protection ?Or should we recognize his behavior for what it is and be sure that we do our best never to act like that. Should we just deal with him as we must and move on ? An impediment only, not a barrier.
See it, recognize it, act on it appropriately, and move on.
Pam, I wish I could do it. But it's so difficult.
Sorry for my venting, just erase it.
Empathetic,
Fish
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Post by Pam on Aug 14, 2003 19:45:16 GMT -6
Fish, I do use those opportunities to teach the kids whats right and whats wrong. Though most of the time I control myself in front of them, there are a few times that I have let the sh** hit the fan. Those are the times that I teach them that even mom is human. Followed by a long explanation of what would have been the proper way to act. Some people have a way of making it hard to live the way I preach to the kids, in which case its "Do as I say, not as I do." I know I may be coming off as some insane woman but I am really fairly grounded. Really, you can even ask Jack. Have a great Friday.
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