4/5/04 Upper Body

[Pam]

Standing BB Curl 1x20x10 1x18x20 1x12x30 1x8x40

Spider Bench Curl 1x10x10 1x8x12 1x6x15 1x4x17.5

DB Shoulder Press 1x10x15 1x8x17.5 1x6x17.5

DB Side Raise 1x10x8 1x8x10 1x6x12

Flat Bench Tri Ext 1x15x15 2x8x20

Tricep Pushdowns 1x20x20 1x10x30 1x4x40

[jack]

What happened on the last set of tri pushdowns. I think you're ready for the big bar for your next curl work. Try the curls seated and tell me how you like them. Keep working those tri's.

[Pam]

I did this entire workout without stopping for anything, no rest periods...no water....no nothing...thats what happeded to my last set of pushdowns I was fried...and yes I am feeling it. Always feel upper body sooner than lower. Oh and my shoulder...nothing, no pain, nothing...and when I started it hurt. Its just weird that the exercises that bother it are different everytime. Where I waste time is when I start an exercise, get through one set then decide that I shouldnt do it...I dont record that stuff...but maybe I will start to.

You want me to do bb curls seated...doesnt the bar hit your legs??? Explain that one better...or are you talking db's?

[jack]

Seated and with a barbell. You start with the barbell resting on your legs and just curl up. Set the safety bars just below your knees.....pick up the bar and rest it on the top of your legs and perform the curls. This takes the back or any arching out of the exercise and hits the bi's more directly than the standing position.

No water,no rest.......I can see why you only got 4 reps on that last set of pushdowns......drink some water though and give your self a little rest before that last set of pushdowns.

Why do you decide not to do an exercise once you've completed a set........unless it's hurting you go ahead and finish the sets. OK,I know women can change their minds . Nice job.

[Pam]

I dont finish the set or continue with more sets because it bothers my shoulder. If an exercise hurts my shoulder I dont stop with the first rep, sometimes its just a matter of warming it up with that exercise, if by the end of the set it still hurts I pick something else. I no longer believe in exercising through the pain.

Doing seated curls the way you described isnt allowling for full ROM....have you seen these somewhere? I'd be interesting in seeing or reading how differently it works the muscle. I've always gone for full ROM when I can. The only time I dont is when it comes to my shoulder. When I'm doing an exercise as soon as I cant achive full ROM, which to me means you're not using good form...I am done with the set. Of course if I've only done 5, 7 or 9 I have to do one more.

I know not drinking can affect your strength while you're lifting but I needed to get in and out yesterday.

Let me know if you have an article or anything on doing the curls the way you described.

[jack]

Try this.... sit on your bench,holding your back stiff and erect,extend your arms so that the inside of your hand is touching the outside of your thigh and I think you'll see that you should get a full ROM on this exercise or very close to it. Even if the ROM is slightly reduced this works your bi's more than the standing BB curls. Try it with the hands and let me know what you think or better yet set your adjustable bench to 90 deg. put it in the power rack and just try it with a bar. I think you'll find that the ROM is not affected.

That exercising through specific pain sucks......one of these days I'm going to have watch you workout.....I need you to show me how to increase my speed and give me some more squat tips .